Sorry it has been awhile! So i went off to Michigan in search of steelhead and man was it a trip! First I would like to thank Rob and Charity for showing me such great hospitality and Rob is one hell of a guide! I went 2 days without a single good hook up! But on day 3 it was on! The new patterns worked great and now I know to tie them all with thicker hooks for next year! Like it or not, Rob, this is gonna have to be a repeat trip for sure!